Do you mind explaining why you’d argue this?
You should realize that first of all, the TD didn’t see it, and second of all, none of the players in the group called for a ruling. Only one of the 3 announcers even noticed it, the other two weren’t comfortable that they even saw anything. Nobody here is advocating a retroactive ruling. It’s interesting that the rules don’t specify what should happen, so that’s why there’s been such a discussion. The harshest penalty proposed was a 0 on the game and/or a yellow card. So if it was Eric instead of Zen, what changes?
I think it is interesting that we’ve had some possible rule violations on stream that haven’t got caught by TDs. It really shows that it’s up to the players to pay attention to each other more than anything. A few streams back a player added players to a game after getting control of the ball–I can’t recall which tourney. No harm no foul, except that player was not in danger up and until the point when he added the other players. If he drains prior to realizing the mistake, oh well, wrong number of players = start over; which is precisely why that game should have been stopped and started over with correct player count.
I am not blaming TDs at all, because it is impossible to catch everything. Players that aren’t watching their opponents risk missing all sorts of things that TDs won’t catch either. Stuck balls in multiball, wrong number of players, a trough pass through that gets plunged, games behaving incorrectly, etc.
I agree with the idea that rules need to be as simple as possible. I agree with the idea that if a death save can be prevented by setup–it should be done as often as possible. I agree that the broadcast booth and/or the audience shouldn’t influence rulings.
Now for my different question. Should a broadcast be used to verify rulings? If Zen had continued to play and one of the players said (note this is completely a hypo - I don’t think anyone would do a death save and keep playing), “I think he did a death save,” What then? Review the tape to confirm? Or just ask the player - Did you do a death save?