Twitch/livestream setups.

Okay, I’ll answer myself. The Hollylands have a 3.5mm jack output, so there’s no problem. I just need to find a good mixer.

Regarding the measurements, I’m going to use a total height of 200 cm and a total width of 88 cm. For the legs, I’m going to make them 50 cm long; I think that’ll be enough.

I recently asked about commentary audio in this thread & dri recommended a Focusrite Vocaster two & Koss headsets. I bought the Vocaster two & a couple Koss SB40 headsets. Those headsets have a dynamic mic, so they don’t require plug-in power. They do require 3.5mm to xlr adapters for the mic plugs & 3.5mm to 1/4" jack adapters for the headphone plugs. This set up is cheap, reliable, easy to use & sounds good. If you don’t think you’ll ever have another person talking on stream with you, you can go with the Vocaster one & a single SB40 headset.
The Vocaster plugs into your computer via a usb cable, then you just add it as a source in obs or streamlabs. Simple.

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Lark M2 says “wireless microphone”.

The one thing you need to be aware of when you try mixing wired and wireless microphones is the latency of the wireless microphone. All these cheap small digital wireless microphones in the market have latency up to the hundreds of milliseconds sometimes and creates an unbearable delay for your audience.

The Lark M2 is a pretty crappy wireless transmitter as it doesn’t have 3.5mm input. If you had bought any other dual system on the market, like RODE or DJI, their transmitters have 3.5mm mic inputs.

If you had a dual wireless mic system with 3.5mm input you can plug your future mixer into the the other wireless unit and that will have your voice and your game mics in perfect sync.

Another thing to know when plugging mixers into a mic-in jack is that that the signal needs to be attenuated from line-out to mic-in. This can be done with an attenuation cable or you can simply get a mixer that supports toggling attenuation, the Mackie MobileMix and 802VLZ4 have a button for that.

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I could be misunderstanding, but my lark M2s have a 3.5mm input.

We also use them to get sound from the rig of our local tournaments. The larks plug into the same mixer as the commentator headsets.

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My bad. They don’t mention this feature on the spec sheet and I couldn’t see a 3.5mm input jack on the transmitter from any angle.

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Hey everyone

I just finished streaming LPA Open ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_KT7zTM5No&t=42344s&ab_channel=PontusQ )

Twitch, for a couple of days: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2443883268

I have a ZV-1 for the playfield and some crappy action cameras for player and scores.
I use a multiviewer and Accsoon Cineview to transmit.

I think the image is grainy and choppy from the playfield and i want to know what you think is my next “bottleneck”? Could it be time to upgrade the multiviewer?
I have this one:
https://www.amazon.se/dp/B07H57BL6V?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title

Or is it time get another Accsoon?

What are your thoughs?

I downloaded a clip from the stream and brought out the microscope. There’s a few issues and remedies you can perform first.

  1. The video coming off the rig and also the commentary talent is running at 30fps. The playfield has some stutter where it skips 3-4 frames intermittently which makes it even worse to watch.
    a) The 30fps are most likely caused by the fact that you’re capturing the Accsoon UVC output. Which is 1080p30 with mono sound. The solution is to capture the HDMI output from the Accsoon receiver into a 1080p60 capable video capture card.
    b) The frame stutter can be the shutter speed on the PF camera. It needs to be set fixed to either 60 or 120.
  2. The Twitch broadcast is running at 720p60. The convention is 1080p60 for Twitch. I don’t know if the convention is to run at PAL frame rates in Europe, being 1080p50 (going back to 50/60Hz TVs)
    a) This is fixable in OBS. Do NOT run the OBS wizard, manually configure the canvas and output to 1080p60.
  3. I’m not sure why the PF looks so smeared and the player cam + score cam looks less smeared. I’m assuming you’re transmitting a quad view from the multi-viewer.
    a) Scaling video is hard. When transmitting quad 1080p60, each quad only has 960x540 worth of pixel estate. First the multi-viewer needs to scale down the 1920 to 960 and then you most likely have your canvas set to 1920x1080 in OBS, that then means you’ll scale up that 960 to 1080. It won’t look good however you slice it. I recommend not scaling up the quadrants that come out from the multi-viewer. It will leave a “bar” for the playfield, but it will look sharper. The multi-viewer may be a culprit for bad scaling performance.
  4. Buying more Accsoon’s isn’t the worst idea but then you might end up dealing with WiFi noise. Instead, entertain this:
    a) The CineView HE are running at an abysmally low bitrate. It’s 2-3Mbit/s, at best. The CineView Master runs up to 12Mbit/s, which isn’t a whole lot either but it’s way crisper than the CineView HE. The CineView Master is a tri-band solution, HE is dual-band. The Master has an easier time to transmit smooth video than having more HE’s in the same space.

I would start at getting 1080p60 all the way from the PF camera to Twitch first and look to spend more money later. If you are in the market for a good 1080p60 capture card, I recommend getting household brand ones (Blackmagic Design, Magewell and worst case Elgato or AVerMedia) and not an Alibaba $20 dongle.

If you’re looking to upgrade the multi-viewer, buy household names, Orei, Monoprice or NeuVideo (these folks OEM the same tins and the scaling is superb).

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Hello guys, I’ve already run tests with the Holleyland Lark M2 connected via 3.5mm jack to a BEHRINGER UMC22 mixer, also connecting an Audio Technica 2040.

It’s been a COMPLETE FAILURE! The Lark M2’s sound is hoarse, very, very bad, but the 2040 part is perfect.

I’m running tests and connecting the Holleyland Lark M2 via USB to my computer, and it sounds perfect. So, with this setup, getting a single line of sound DOESN’T WORK.

I’m buying everything on AMAZON, so I have no problem returning anything that doesn’t work.

I’m looking at the LIVETRAK 6 on ZOOM, and it looks great. Has anyone tried it?

On the other hand, I just saw that Zoom has released a new portable recorder/mixer, the ZOOM H5STUDIO. I think it’s incredible. It’s also going to include an accessory, the ZOOM WLM-1, which consists of two wireless microphones that can be integrated into the recorder. Wonderful.

Please give me some ideas. thaaaaaaanksss

Not sure what your issue could be with the lark m2s using the 3.5mm jack. Haven’t had those issues. Are you sure it’s plugged into the mixer properly?

Yes, the problem is with the BEHRINGER UMC22. I just tried it on a Teenage Engineering TX-6 mixer and it works perfectly. The problem is that this mixer doesn’t support XLR microphones.

I just returned the BEHRINGER and the AT2040, and I bought a Zoom M3 MicTrak. :grin:

I’ll let you know.

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So you’re plugging in the Lark into an instrument leveled jack on the behringer? Yes, that will sound like crap.

Ok, someone’s got a budget. :joy: But it confirms the level on the behringer instrument jack is an actual instrucment jack and the Lark works.

Hehe, I like tinkering, and music.

Confirmed, the Lark works very, very well on the TX6. Today I also received a Panasonic HC-X1500, and I’m slowly finalizing the setup.

HC-X1500 camera for the Playfield
Fujitsu TX20 gamer camera
Logitech StreamCam Webcam. Third camera

Hollyland Lark M2. Gamer microphone

Zoom M3 MicTrak. Microphone booth.

Teenage TX6 mixer

2x Raleno PLV-S192 lighting

Asus ZB Duo UX8406MA laptop

Hopefully I can do some testing this weekend.

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Oh nice! I’ve been eyeballing the X1200. What made you pick the X1500 which is from 2019 compared to the X1200, X1600 and X2100 that just came out?

Easy: the HC1500 is better than HC1200, and, compared to the HC1600, the price doesn’t justify the advantages.

Here in Spain, the HC1600 costs 1,700 euros. I bought a refurbished HC1500 on Amazon for 1,000 euros (like new).

A big difference to pay for having an OLED screen and losing a few grams.

By the way, have you seen the new Zoom recorder?
The H5Studio is fantastic. If I didn’t have the TX6 at home, I would have definitely bought this one.

And best of all, this summer they’re releasing a module to add two wireless microphones, the WLM-1. It’s simply wonderful.

Good deal! I’ve made some great finds ebaying and buying used over the years.

It has limited inputs and you pay a lot for things you don’t use (recording and mic capsule). Having the display is a big plus though. I’m not a huge fan of Zoom. I have an AMS-44 which sort of does what it says on the tin but I’m replacing it with something else, having XLR phantom to 3.5mm plug-in power adapters is just too bulky.

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