Using the camera to make rulings: Viewer, Commentator, and TD responsibilities.

In this particular case, the commentators were VERY engaged with the chat, and were agreeing vociferously with the idea that someone should tell the TDs what was going on.

What they weren’t engaged with was the idea of getting up and doing it themselves, which seemed like a strange choice considering their oft-stated conviction that somebody should really tell the TDs about what was going on.

At one point one of them finally did rise to bark orders across a very loud room that the course of action should be to “TAKE THE GAME OUT!!!” but that didn’t seem to be a very effective means of communicating the issue.

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Haha. Yeah. Very weird. Could be a simple convo next time. One of the commentators come tell the TDs if they see something. No proxies. Especially if said proxy didn’t witness anything.

and then people on line starting that that game is acting odd and the TD does not have the game rules info to know that?

If none of the TDs have knowledge of the game they are using, they shouldn’t be using it.

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Using video review will make tournaments more complicated, but the complexity added by doing so will be very worth the effort and time on account of the integrity it will add to the game — as review has done in other sports — by mediating the imperfections in pingames and their scoring mechanisms. It could also stop and deter cheating some, even though I don’t see cheating as a major concern for the game at all. We have some tools to review moments, so let’s try to put them to use wherever we have them! Still, doing so will add more time to a tournament, and perhaps a lot of time. Prepare to miss some flights! :wink:

And I’m wondering if the “never add points nor subtract points” guideline for rulings will be affected by the implementation of video review? (Or maybe that rule isn’t around anymore?)

It’s the same issue the NFL and all pro sports have…it’s just hard to ignore the technology, when millions of people are watching and can tell you are getting it wrong. In our case, it’s 3,000 + watching, but still, the same thing more or less. My attitude used to be “not my responsibility” but if something funky is happening in the future if I’m calling a match I’ll either get a TD’s attention or try to prod someone else in the booth into action. I promise I will guard your seat…ah shit, didn’t see that guy, he just leapt in and threw on the headset, sorry!

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Correct…we were offered an Alien at one point but deferred as that was a minefield waiting to happen in a number of different ways.

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Likewise, if none of the commentators have knowledge of the game they shouldn’t be commentating.

This is where I disagree. It’s just for fun. They are doing their best. It’s very hard to get people that want to commentate. I say as long as they aren’t offensive, let them have at it.

I’ll provide them with notes on the games so they aren’t completely in the dark.

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