Twitch/livestream setups.

I would try and see if ANY cell providers are good in that location then buy a hotspot from that provider.

I bought the expensive Netgear hot spot and I’m still looking for a decent plan that would allow me to use it the way I would. 100GBs over a weekend once or twice a year without being locked up in a monthly plan.

I have resorted to using the hot spot on my phone. Pixel 8 on Google Fi, data is free and unthrottled. The Fi plan does not allow me to have a data only SIM in a hot spot, which sucks.

Given how sucky cell coverage and quality in the US is in general, it’s not a good strategy for reliable live streaming.

I’ve streamed the Golden State Pinball Tournament the last two years on a hot spot. Purchased the Verizon Orbic and it worked as needed. Just had to reduce the bit rate down but still did 1080p60. We just add it our plan in May every year, then inactivate it after. I think it is $30 to activate it and $80/mo. for the premium plan, which I didn’t even fully use the allowable 150 GB’s.

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150GB is generous. AT&T has increased their amount to 100GB but it’s still more expensive ($90/mo and you need to visit an AT&T store every time you need to activate it as SIM cards may only be inactive for a few months).

Thanks. The replies were helpful.

I’m also wondering of anyone has equipment they’d recommend. Many times the location will be in a place that makes it hard to see cell signals - non-windowed convention centers, basements, etc. I have a Verizon jetpack but, even with an external antenna, it only does slightly better than my iphone. Any suggestions?

Is satellite internet portable?

Starlink is.

Sounds like that’s the only option left.

A small tip I just figured out for anyone using the Magewell Pro Capture HDMI devices:

You can change the “No Signal” or “Unsupported Device” image that the device uses. This way you don’t get the unsightly color bars on your stream if your wireless rig or Stern LVDS converter cuts out. They are simple images in the C:\Windows\ProCapture folder (or in your install folder if you downloaded the driver from Magewell).

You can replace NoSignal.png with whatever image you desire, such as a solid black. You’ll have to restart the driver after you edit the image to see the change. Either reboot your PC, or goto Start->Device Manager->Sound, video, and game controllers->Right click all Pro Capture devices and Disable, then Enable.

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Great. It’s not el gato, but can we still put up a still pic of Travis? :laughing:

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has anyone used Starlink to stream? I’ve got it at home and could test it if nobody has.

Neil.

No, but I would be interested in your test results.

I’m confident it will work just fine.

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Yeah me also. Although still a lot of interruptions during regular use.

We are thinking of building a rig to use at our turmaments, and i have a lot of newbie-questions if you can bare with me.

I am thinking of three cameras, Logitech 920 for DMD and player and 922 for playfield.
I want it to be wireless so maybe Accsoon CineView to send the signal and Monoprice to collect all cameras to one feed.

Is this something that could work?

What do i need from the computer ie ports memory etc?

Will i use a program on the computer to arrange the different cameras?

Battery?

And an extreme beginners thing… How do i connect the cameras? Do i convert the usb to hdmi or is there a switch than can handle that?

I have tried to read the complete thread, because i guess the answers are there, but after all it is almost ten years of wisdom to plow through :slight_smile:

Best regards
Pontus
Lund Pinball Academy
Sweden

I don’t know of any option to convert USB 2.0 to hdmi. I don’t think you can. Usually people upgrade to hdmi cameras at this juncture.

just some thoughts came to mind, and I don’t know about wireless streaming.

Are you sure 922 is enough for the PF for todays streams?
Also make sure you have 60fps on the PF-Cam, however 60fps is not required for the DMD capture.

Program I use is OBS and it’s free. It will be alot of work to set up everything. The best you can do is you never change your USB ports, so the program remembers it.
Also think about lighting, it makes the stream much more enjoyable.

If you have a USB signal you don’t have to convert it, the other way around requires a converter. Make sure it supports 60 FPS and full HD, to prevent problems.

Usually you need alot of usb ports on the PC. (3 Cams, microphone…)

cheers

I don’t think you’ll be able to use webcams for wireless, as you’ll need to transmit in HDMI. Even though the Sony CX-405 has been around for a while, it’s still the one used on most rigs, and you can find good prices on used ones. They don’t have a micophone, though, so if you want sound from the pinball machine, consider a Sony ZV-1, or ZV-1F, for one of your cameras.

You’ll need a computer with enough USB bandwidth to handle 3, or more, cameras (we use 3 on the rig and 2 more in the booth). Most modern laptops should have enough, but if you get flicker on your feeds, it’s probably because your computer can’t handle the bandwidth.

If you’re just streaming your touneys, you don’t need high-end wireless transmitters, unless your location is really big or you need to go through walls. Any of the transmitters on Amazon with an antenna will be fine and only cost about $150 each (don’t get the disc shaped ones without an antenna; they only transmit about 100 feet).

For software, OBS is the gold standard. It’s free and does everything.

We use this battery. I like that it shows you the actual percentage left. If we don’t use our rig lights, 4 of these power the rig for over 12 hours.

I’m sure there are online tutorials that show the detail, but you’ll need a Video Capture Card for each of your wireless cameras. You’ll transmit in HDMI and then these convert to USB video which OBS can read.

Good luck! PM me if there’s anything I can help with.

I have a project that allows you to use a Raspberry Pi and configure multiple webcams and HDMI capture dongles like the Camlink into RTSP streams that you can use as input sources in OBS.

I would advise against the C922. The C920 is great for the budget end of a 30fps webcam, but the Razer Kiyo Pro is a big step up IMO and better than the Brio for less money. Every now and again they go on a pretty decent sale. And the Kiyo Pro Ultra is probably the best you can get going the USB route.

My mobile rig is a Pi4 with an Anker powered USB hub, a Kiyo Pro Ultra for the playfield, Kiyo Pro for the player camera, and a Brio for the backglass since it has ultra wide FOV. And I have a Rode video mic go ii streaming audio over rtsp as well.

Thanks for the answers :slight_smile:

So i will probably change the cameras to handycams, but that should not be a problem.

My venue has three rooms, with concrete walls, so i think i will go with Accson to be sure.

If i use a monoprice to collect all three feeds to one hdmi, how does it look on the computer? I´m having a hard time understanding if i can pick up the individual camera feeds to convert the way i want to for streaming on twitch. Or am i missing something? For me, a hdmi switch lets you choose from different devices to alternate between playstation and tv for example.

Thanks for the battery tips, i think i have a Noco car booster with a hefty load of power to use.