The issue of posting rules on fb is in fact an issue and should be reviewed before committing to using fb as a primary source of tourny info. There are better and more effective ways to post tourny specifics but in this case and in many events prior, there are multi places that have info and what could be considered a primary source of info isn’t primary after all and becomes inncorrect and is never updated which is unfortunate. What we have here is 3 locations of info. Two are showing incorrect qualifying times and incorrect final times and the other is less effective when sourcing additional info but has important updated info. My suggestion would be in two parts. Use one agreed location for all tourny info and have the other sites redirect folks to the primary source, don’t use fb for tourny specifics unless it is accessible 100% without signing in. 
I is a Genious
- The IFPA requires a website for any event that is submitted.
- A TD should use a general description on the IFPA site since they can’t modify it themselves and they aren’t tied down to something within a 30 day window.
- Public Facebook event pages don’t require a login and in my opinion are the best to use as a TD
- OBX had some general information on their facebook site but also linked to a google document with more specifics.
Sometimes decisions are made at the event (OBX) as I think Main qualifying on Friday was supposed to end at 10pm which it did but classics was support to end at 9pm. Since Classics started later the qualifying end time for Friday was pushed back to 10pm.
It doesn’t matter who runs an event, there will still be people complaining about something. lol
I was the one who used the word “dig”. You quoted the wrong person.
I agree that updates should be easier to find. A buddy of mine kept texting me these updates and I was like “Where are you finding this stuff”? He said Facebook. So after looking at several different Facebook sites related to LAX and the Circuit I found the info. Nothing is perfect. But I understand why someone could be upset if they drove 15 hours and the tourney details had changed significantly without knowing it.
Oops. Sorry PN.
More people surf the Internet (web sites) than there are members of FB. It may be easier for TD’s to post rules on FB, but a website would reach more people. Even if the FB page is publically accessible, the annoying login screen makes it difficult to read.
This is something I wish would be improved in the near future, it would be great if we could modify the tournament description on the IFPA page when changes happen
The obx rule mandating 6 (it was at least 6 dont remember exacly) recorded scores by 6pm saturday was quite different and changed the open unlimited qualifying template to something I had never seen. That rule should have been included in all info locations and especially with the ifpa. It was a complete game changer. If players were not there by 3pm Saturday, the ability to qualify was reduced to about zero and shortly later, at zero.
This will end up with 30-40% of players who play (based on past years) being restricted to Division A.
Louisville’s ‘B’ is based off of PAPA ‘C’ restrictions. If I look at last year;s participants and moved it to 800, would’ve restricted only 8 more people.
Which other thread? All tournaments set their threshold differently.
I wanted to let you know I don’t disagree with you when it comes to larger events like the ones on PAPA Circuit. I’m in an assistant role for a PAPA event this year and based on your feedback we started to put all the rules on a website which we’ll link to from the Facebook event site. This will centralize these rules and won’t display a login. Its a wordpress site and mobile friendly which ive tested. We’ll start advertising this in a few weeks as we’re still finalizing some details.
thanks!
The problem here is allowing TD’s to modify their entry into something that we wouldn’t endorse.
Currently everything flows through an approval process, either approved via @PressStart or myself.
For now, emailing the IFPA gmail account and allowing us to make those updates as necessary has worked quite well. I know that @chesh sent some updated verbiage this morning for some calendar listings, and I’ll get those in later today.
Also to elaborate what @pinwizj was saying, if you use generic details, I will let it through, but when time comes to submit results, if you ran something that we wouldn’t approve, you won’t get your WPPR points.
Better to put as much about the format as possible so the chances of you getting denied points later is less.
Moscaturf was the one who got the conversation started. I may have been a little louder, but Mos got the ball rolling.
Cool that you’re helping with an event. From someone who has also helped behind the scenes plenty of times, your work is appreciated. The TD’s get all the glory, but it’s us little people that really make a tourney run smoothly. d;^)
I would like to emphasize one last thing here and hopefully end this discussion on this particular thread which should have been dedicated to lax info but turned into something else. Sorry.
In reference to updating info on the ifpa site… I would suggest that the tournament template originally posted should never change unless of course there is good reason. I can’t speak for whoever implemented the obx rule but a rule that changes the template of a tourny should exist in the original ifpa posting. If it is not, then I would tend to negate its use and put it in for next year. I also would like to mention my concern about the intent of the obx rule which from my understanding was implemented to prevent a player or players from not showing a full set of 6 qualifying games until the last hour or so of the tourny. Apparently this happened a year or so prior. The player qualified last minute and went on to win the tourny. That is what I understood this rule was to defend against. As I said earlier, the rule will not prevent that if a player decides on that type of stratergy. It defends against nothing unless if course you can’t get there early enough and find yourself sol. It was posted as a typical templated unlimited open qualification, coin drop style tourny with qualification times and I believe the registration fee. I firmly believe that in the case of obx, the tourny format should be as it was posted with the ifpa and should not be changed. My last concern would be penalizing players who are playing in an ifpa approved tourny only to find out that is was not aporoved.
Sorry for all the posts here. We need to leave plenty of room for a long awaited papa list of games for lax 
Hope to see everyone in louisville 
@PAPA_Doug, If “Louisville Pinball” said that the top 4 “novices” (players with an IFPA ranking > 2500) get a free entry into the Sunday morning Pingolf event, would that step on the Replay Foundation’s toes in an unforgivable way?
Any games decided yet for the tournaments?
Nope. At louisville I think everyone who comes through the door gets free tickets into the tournament.
I do believe the first game announced is Tron.
P.S. Not Tron, just Golden Eye
Bitchin’
I didn’t see tron announced, but i saw Goldeneye