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HS2: Secret Mania - multiball bug?

gammagoat

We had a game of HS2, where player 1 played Secret Mania as I expect it to work. Player 2 also activated Secret Mania, but it released all 3 balls into play. Player 1 looked at me and said, that isn’t right, is it?

Was this just a normal releasing balls when it shouldn’t bug, or some complex 2 people both playing Secret Mania bug/feature I don’t know about.

No ruling was asked for, so our TDs did not need to make that decision, although I think P2 was going to win even without it.

pinwizj
keefer
Law

I’ve heard/read a few times that Secret Mania has the potential to mess up the game state on HS2 and ROMs with the mode removed are preferred for high-level competitive play. I don’t know the details but I would guess you hit a bug.

PressStart

20lxuk

ryanwanger

Does secret mania reset your normal multiball progress? Because I swear that happened to me last time I tried.

Snailman

… ________?" If ______ is to screw you in some way or mess up the game, then the answer is Yes. :slight_smile:

pinwizj

4th line down is where things mess up . . .

gammagoat

Oh…Well if they tried to implement the standard model of the Lagrangian on a WPC I can see why it has problems.

omo

If they did, it had to be on HS2, considering the music.

AuntAgnes

This was at our League playoffs and I was Player 1. Neither I nor Player 2 were having a good game and when I had the option on ball 3 to do Secret Mania I decided ‘What the heck?’ and went for it (obviously a bad move in hind sight). I ended up about 7 million up on Player 2 after draining. Player 2 locked their 2nd ball and decided to start Secret Mania as well as they saw what I did, they had made a comment they didn’t know about it before they saw me do it. When Secret Mania started it released all 3 balls from the lock and proceeded to win the match. I was having a terrible day thus far already and wasn’t worth making it a big deal, although I did beat @PinballProfile on WOF so I’ll take that as a consolation prize.

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gammagoat

@pinwizj please tell me you where implying this joke when you posted that image. That would be brilliant.

pinwizj

LOL I wish . . . I literally google image’d “sophisticated math formula” and went with the funniest image I saw. The fact that people actually know what that formula is gives me faith in humanity that we’re a smart species :slight_smile:

gammagoat

I only know how to do an image search. Required skill when dealing with Kijiji ads.

cornycrunch

20n350

PinballProfile
  1. Everyone beat me that day.
  2. You had a great game on WOF. (high score?)
  3. WOF is a turd. (2nd only to RCT).
  4. I’m more of a Price Is Right guy…like when I’m on the show with Phil Birnbaum the day before INDISC!
travam

Sacrilege! WoF is a great game that will sadly never be finished coding wise.

PinballProfile

just my opinion. @travam …sorry to call your baby “ugly” (lol). I just don’t like the outlanes and center drain lanes. Of course, maybe I just suck at it (VERY likely!).

Frisbez

But you get so many chances to save the ball!

PinballProfile

not the way I play

travam

Hahaha we all like different things. I love WoF because the answer to most things is: just don’t flip and let the ball bounce.

cayle

20ndl0

ScoutPilgrim

You dabbled in the Eldritch art of Secret Mania and the Old Ones are pleased. Nothing is wrong here.

JPW

Just ban secret mania from being used on Getaway. I will continue to use secret mania on STTNG, Junkyard, and Who Dookie until further notice.

bkerins

The length of your Who Dunnit games is too damn high!

philoflipper

In my local league one guy calls it “Secret Drainia” because he has a superstition that you will always drain while trying to milk it.

phishrace

I’m surprised the Papa site doesn’t have anything on it. Too many words or just haven’t got around to it? As bugs go, it’s epic.

Isn’t the consensus that it’s an ok game for single game qualifying but not for multi player games (playoffs)?

metallik

Activating secret mania during a 4p competitive game is the pinball equivalent of sitting in a crowded hot tub and taking a dump. Just don’t do it.

Shep

It’s funny, I did this in PAPA B semi finals many years ago. I have no idea why I did it and I yelled at myself when I did. It caused the lock ramp to be permanently stuck up for the rest of the game – for all four players. It didn’t help I was player 1 on ball 1.

chuckwurt

You took a dump in a crowded hot tub??

:astonished:

metallik

Morbid curiosity… that’s the only explanation I have for why one’s hand subconsciously reaches for the shifter upon seeing those three police cars. You know it’ll ruin the game, but you still wonder exactly HOW it’ll go down this time. Maybe, by chance, the resulting mess might be beneficial for once? (has secret mania actually ever resulted in a beneficial situation?)

soren

Never say never. Wait 20 years time for the vault edition or retro edition. I foresee, when PPS get around to Cactus Canyon, it will come with a revised and enhanced rule set.

Here be the ROM fix for The Getaway:

cayle

Don’t worry, the vault edition is already here!