Encouraging participation when the same top players tend to win

Very well put @ErinK That is the main reason I have stopped participating in the **Show Tourneys.

I don’t have the foggiest idea where you got that I think people aren’t coming because they have to win to have fun, or that what I said was in any way derogatory.

Hey, that’s me! My primary goal when I enter a tournament is to win. I value the purity of the competition above all else. But I’m also not going to participate in formats I don’t find fun, or play at a location I don’t want to be at.

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Wait until we see the caliber of player that is in the ā€œBā€ division at INDISC 2020. Sheesh…:star_struck:

Caliber better be high considering the $'s spent just to attend the show. Hope to some year justify the cost of going.

How do their restrictions work?

You have to answer an insanely complex and nuanced riddle to be B eligible. :wink:

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Top 40 make A. Next 16 make B. Cutoff for B is WPPR 250.

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Let me know if you need someone to write those. :smiling_imp:

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But there’s only so many different knock off Oreo brands from which to form riddles! Will be a high bar! :wink::grin:

A high bar indeed! :grin:

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In the past, the forum software would hide someone if they got three flags on their post. Recent changes in the software have introduced more variables into the equation, and your post got hidden after one flag. I’ve tweaked things a bit so that hopefully this doesn’t happen again.

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Has no one else figured out the loop-hole? I can’t be the only one. If you are in it for the ā€œfunā€, but still want some points, put together a group of people and then post your tournament. If you have limited space like I do, filling an event (24-32 players) with the fun people is not an issue. If you have a waiting list…do not publish it online. It may seem terrible, but when you have been snubbed many times by ā€˜those players’, you simply find another way.

The event you are describing should not be for points, because it is not open to the public.

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Sounds great! Sign me up . . . or don’t if you don’t feel like it? :slight_smile:

LOL…I’ve never had the need to employ this tactic… I hear about ā€˜problem players’ in the area, but they never show up at my location. I suspect they prefer a ā€œserious competitiveā€ environment. Meanwhile, I have a cat that randomly run across the glass on a row of pins. The rule is ā€œcat hazard: play through itā€. :smiley:

If I’m hosting an event on my home turf, I’d want ā€œthose playersā€ to show up because they bring value, and it’s nice to compete against them and learn their moves and strategy. Your best chance of beating them is on familiar machines.

If you do want a ā€œfunā€ tournament, there’s nothing wrong with pre-alerting all your friends and filling the roster immediately upon announcement. Stuff like that can’t be policed, but the waitlist should be public and accepting of anyone (barring bad behavoir bans) in order to qualify for WPPR points.

I see your point, and I agree. However, I have been at events where people despise playing with certain people, not because of their skill, but the way in which they behave. Best way to find out who the problem players are is to go to an event…People will talk (vent) when prompted.

I have played in groups where the other players would not even acknowledge me beyond when it was my turn. Honestly, some people can be frigid, and I see no issue with someone returning it at their convenience.

But for some stuff do you really want to deal with an Pinburgh like Buy rush?

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My bad, I thought ā€˜those players’ referred to good players, not annoying players.

I’ve been fortunate enough not to have run into anyone really annoying. This may change as I hit more tournaments after Covid, but so far I’m not avoiding anyone in particular.