WPPR v5.8 sneak peek

i couldn’t catch most of the stream, any link/timestamp recommendations? :slight_smile:

Here’s a good example on TWD: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1504452542?t=07h23m35s
Compliments of JDL_Pinball channel.

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That game is just so much more fun to watch and play when you can light modes at any point.

And holy soggy flippers Batman. Never seen a pro that it’s tough to make the cdc ramp.

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Agree about the mode setting. It was the first thing I noticed.

Good ol tourney pinball, taking all the fun out of pinball since forever to save 2 minutes.

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That’s funny, Erik, because I had the exact opposite reaction. TWD is stupid easy when you can light modes at any point and definitely not a setup I’m remotely interested in watching (or playing), lol. Any schlub can flip away during multi-ball and luck into huge mode collects over and over without the slightest idea of what they did or how they did it. I would much rather see deliberate and controlled single ball play that applies a dynamic risk vs. reward decision making process in setting up the one (or two) big possible payouts available by skillfully stacking one of the modes with Prison and one other of the modes with Blood Bath/Well-Walker. That, in my opinion, would be a far more satisfying game of TWD to see in competition rather than a game where 100% of the “dangerous” drop target shots are neutered to 0% danger because they all occur during safe multi-ball play. ymmv.

I thought Colin’s link above was actually going to be a different game of TWD from Johannes last weekend, lol, where he absolutely obliterated Barn in single ball play with his spectacular control and accuracy.

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Disagree. :wink:

When TWDs start holding up tournaments, I’ll hear the arguments for comp instal. Maybe.

But I’d rather see the play separated by players that can navigate 4 balls at once without accidentally tripping their X and get big collects.

On comp install, those types of stacks rarely, if ever, happen.

That’s exactly what Johannes did in this game with that 133mm collect and what Prusa did at Pincinnati with a 200-300 million collect. The schlubs wouldn’t be able to do that.

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LFS agrees with this 100% :heart:

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For the Fulda WPPR Farming series, I forecasted 7726 total WPPRs three weeks ago. The actual total was 8218.77. My guesstimate wasn’t half bad.

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Watching him play Godzilla, someone in chat said the loop was dangerous and not to shoot it, he is like nah bro, I will just shoot it then shoot the tail whip every time with perfect accuracy for an easy flipper feed. Truly bonkers.

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Reminds me of a time I played Andy Rosa on Shadow and I couldn’t get anything going ball one with vengeance due to flipper hop. Warned Rosa about it when he stepped up and he ignored me and got over a billion from one vengeance mode ball 1. Haha.

Daniele must have set the record for amount of WPPRs individually earned in one extended weekend farming event: 351.6!!! Holy crap.
A full 8 events for his Top20 card, at an average of 44 per tourney. Wow.

That just beat Zach out from his PAPA farming weekend in 2017:

Zach did 349.09 WPPR’s in 5 events, nearly 70 per tourney average.

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RIP PAPA farming :frowning:

Yeah. I never got to play there. Still holding out hope they somehow resurrect it.

Here’s the summary, ranked by most WPPRS for all events:

PLAYER Rank WPPR Total
Daniele Celestino Acciari 1 351.56
Johannes Ostermeier 2 338.06
Andrew Foster 3 269.87
Flavio Baddaria 4 260.67
Markus Stix 5 248.40
Paul Englert 6 245.60
Arvid Flygare 7 222.95
Robert Sutter 8 203.01
Reidar Spets 9 189.56
Tobias Wagemann 10 185.02
Markus Virtanen 11 178.11
Viggo Löwgren 12 158.74
Eric Houtteman 13 153.79
Stefan Herold 14 148.52
Bart Volman 15 141.04
François de Wrangel 16 133.99
John van der Wulp 17 131.86
Dirk Elzholz 18 129.63
Arno Nöbl 19 127.80
Ben Moser 20 116.33
Thomas Mästerman 21 107.87
Dominique De Cock 22 106.09
Mario Kertels 23 105.90
Boldizsár Botka 24 105.26
Benjamin Gräbeldinger 25 101.62
Philippe Craul 26 99.14
Vid Kuklec 27 96.12
Martin Janczyk 28 92.85
Alexander Muer 29 89.43
Hugo Ritter 30 88.55
Ivan Geentjens 31 88.22
Helen de Haan-Verbeek 32 86.72
Bo Mertins 33 81.27
Paul Jongma 34 77.00
Frank Nilsen 35 75.24
Didier Dujardin 36 73.05
Patrick Pehrs 37 71.55
Artur Natorski 38 71.32
Mika Marttinen 39 69.11
Martijn Van Amsterdam 40 68.06
Philipp Unger 41 65.62
Kurt Louwie 42 60.59
Jürgen Letzel 43 60.54
Peter Blakemore 44 58.58
Eberhard Hattemer 45 57.88
Johan Flygare 46 56.10
Wolfgang Haid 47 54.64
Jari Nuutinen 48 54.23
Axel Vercauteren 49 53.80
Kevin Roelants 50 52.93
Laurent Gregoire 51 52.39
Fredrik Löwgren 52 51.97
Denis Ritter 53 51.53
Perttu Pesä 54 51.37
Željko Vasic 55 51.05
Zsolt Mészáros 56 50.91
Morten Søbyskogen 57 50.65
Lea Muer 58 46.80
Peter Kroiss 59 46.04
Jürgen Zwilling 60 44.69
Peter Schmidt 61 42.06
Jim Lindsay UK 62 41.15
Dan Lewell 63 40.61
Stefan Schichtl 64 40.51
Carl Bierkens 65 40.50
Stefan Hänsch 66 40.08
Rafal Wasik 67 39.63
Thomas Stenbäck 68 39.47
Roger Wirz 69 37.73
Luukas Marttinen 70 36.74
Dirk Dröden 71 35.41
Kirk Sadler 72 34.85
Mariusz Tkacz 73 34.45
Olivier Renders 74 33.27
Lars Ørskov Jensen 75 33.16
Patrick Gelbarth 76 31.44
Hervé Pierru 77 30.83
Amy Ziegenhagen 78 30.47
Rakesh Kanhai 79 30.09
Juha Viitanen 80 28.72
Alexander Bienzeisler 81 27.80
Fabio Villanueva 82 25.67
Tomi Virtanen 83 25.56
Bernd Eder 84 24.98
Mathias Jäger 85 24.22
Craig Pennuto US 86 24.20
Mike Christiansen 87 22.75
Barbara Sprenger 88 22.41
Volker Levien 89 22.30
Kevin Sultana 90 22.17
Daniel Kruzinski 91 21.92
Maximilian Bösel 92 21.87
Marc Twiehaus 93 21.77
Jan Hop 94 21.73
Louis Hänsch 95 21.64
Anders Helboe Poulsen 96 21.63
Kay Kuster 97 21.00
Matthias Ziegenhagen 98 19.86
yvan raets 99 19.63
Karol Gracz 100 19.35
Sven Engelland 101 19.27
Guido Christiansen 102 18.07
Oliver Dold 103 17.51
Thomas Doepelheuer 104 16.98
Florian Thomas 105 16.84
Olle Strandh 106 15.99
Dina Lindsay 107 15.55
Zana Hrastovsek 108 14.11
Carsten Wieske 109 14.03
Reiner Pfeiffer 110 13.28
Sascha Klenke 111 12.33
Andrzej Olszewski 112 11.56
Roland Brandes 113 10.97
Eugen Brunner 114 10.81
Bettina Kykebusch 115 9.97
Wolfgang Lackner 116 9.69
Jenna Muer 117 9.35
Kim Danielmeier 118 9.18
Daniel Poturica 119 8.46
Patrick Blösel 120 6.55
Gudrun Baechle 121 6.41
Daniela Thomas 122 5.97
Margit Danielmeier 123 5.48
Thomas Behr 124 5.41
Jens Schmidt 125 0.18

Impressive! The harvest has come in!

Is there a way to quickly calculate the net WPPRS (on their Top20 card)? For at least the top 10-20 from Fulda Olympics?
Perhaps their WPPRS now vs their WPPRS pre-Olympics weekend?

Post-fulda update to the analysis that I previously shared. Some interesting stats:

  • For Euro players in the top 50, Fulda accounts for ~50% of all active WPPRs. Only ~25% of European WPPRs come from non-farm events.
  • There is only one Euro player in the top 200 who hasn’t played in a farm event.

Zooming in a bit on the front page, down to only 2 players who are using only organic/non-GMO WPPRs.

Not easily, but I do archive the Top 500 periodically, and I did so just after IFPA. I can compare that listing with the current one and flag players who were in either the June D82 series or Fulda.

Your missing the Delaware farm Phil.

a few lines of code for me. i think this is right. This is difference between points on 2022-06-23 and points on 2022-6-08, so there may be a few other events mixed in there. I doubt very many though.

A gain of +246 points is just wild.

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