they have an BAR and food things that some other places do not have.
What if they only serve pizza but one of the players is lactose intolerant?
they have way more then just pizza.
District 82 has Jamaica Mi Krazy . . . so I would call the food/beverage options a push
From my post-mortem for this event, here’s what I have written for why this wasn’t better attended:
- COVID (some people were exposed shortly before/actively sick, did not want to risk coming)
- Venue issues (every venue has it’s +/- and the - in this case caused some people to not come)
- Lack of advance notice
- Format (all the tourneys were Herb style / pump & dump which turned off some of the newer players as well as price-sensitive players)
I think #1 and #3 are quite fixable for the next time around. #1 is of course out of our control but hopefully it’s not as bad later this year.
#3 was big because IIRC it was on a holiday weekend (MLK Jr) and announced with not that much time. I know several people like RDay and others were at a different pinball event and a lot of local players had made holiday plans already.
Though I doubt it’ll be 128 it can maybe be 64+ which would be nice for later this year.
Also, WPPR farms are definitely not easy. Just look at those “what broke and how I fixed it” videos that Erik posts after every event. That’s not even counting the things that broke and were fixed during the event!
Dudes a machine. Truly remarkable how he can keep up with all of it.
In regard to machine choice, for me, player choice is often too strong a benefit especially if the highest seed/best qualifier always picks the game each round.
Random is fairer, but i understand the argument of certain games being more open to chance than others.
TD choice is open to abuse, or at least accusations of, picking games to favour themselves or friends.
There is a fourth choice - predetermined.
My Pinfest comp has 3 best of 3 h2h knockout rounds to produce 4 finalists. Where they play a PAPA style final. Final is randomly drawn to include, 1 Classic, 1 DMD & 1 LCD, but could easily be switched to top 3 seeds each choose 1 machine each.
All games are predetermined for the knockout rounds BEFORE the tournament even starts.
Nobody can possibly play the same game twice, even if everyone one of their matches goes to a tiebreak. In addition, the pick and order of games means that each round will give a mix of LCD, DMD or classic games.
It only requires 9 machines.
The actual route you take is determined from you qualifying position.
I think people need to build a fun farm first, then see if WPPRs will grow. D82 had a large player base while WPPRs were on hold, so they must be doing something people like
Wow, what a thread! Just a couple points I want to reiterate, being a state rep.
- Josh does listen to feedback when large changes are proposed. Originally the proposal was to nerf ALL forms of Flipper Frenzy to 1/3 TGP. It was myself and a few others that suggested FF be cut to 1/2 TGP.
Then there is the Certified availability with no limit on number of players that Josh already mentioned. I’m sure there are other examples that I don’t recall or am not aware of. - The overwhelming response(but not unanimous) was that multi-matchplay was indeed a WPPR grab and shouldn’t get the 2X TGP boost.
- This is not exactly WPPR v5.8 related:
Colin, Josh and others are 100% correct that the success of D82 is purely due to the tireless efforts of Erik Thoren and his team! We too have a location that could be the D82 of the southeast, yet there is not a single person or team who is willing to put forth the hard work to make it happen. We’ve at least stepped it up to running a monthly there but even that is just a single 5 hour tournament. Couple that with the fact that we live in a very hot climate and the place has no A/C so we can’t really run year round there. So, more D82’s is the answer but more people like Erik are very hard to find!
We have an top notch location just not the player base and geography go figure lol… Still get 30-50 on league nights nothing to sniff at but District 82 base is pretty insane. Location pinball is hard and Erik has done a wonderful job in marketing and ensure the quality of play at his events. People are now travelling across the globe to play in those events, pretty soon D82 will accumulate enough points to own all 20 events for Stern Circuit. Congrats you are the man!
well for Circuit stuff there should an per event / location point cap just to make an Circuit an Circuit. (if just circuit points)
His naaame is Eri(k)
OK, Andi… LOL
pinwizj
any room for say Certified tournament / Certified+ tournament to have some min rules to push less play on’s and have to an bit more of take the time to make it fair?
Now maybe one other thing?
some kind of boost for events with an NON playing TO / TD?? (maybe not all TO staff) The idea being you want them to take the time to be an TO / TD and not try to play and do TO / TD stuff at the same time.
No
what about some bad weather policy? and how will that hit the 4 day rule?
Or something to deal with long issues like big power outages.
What the heck is up with your quarreling and silly nitpicking? Jesus christ.
I for one enjoy playing late 80s Gottliebs at chin level
Bingham vision trophy ball.
If you’re as good as Johannes, you can go to two Fulda farming weekends and have half your Top20 card filled with an average of 52 per tourney. Love watching him play – his skill level is ridiculous.