WPPR v5.8 sneak peek

Josh: We’re making these changes.
Reps: Why?
Josh: We’ve received feedback/I don’t like this thing that’s happening
Reps: How are you measuring whether this will have the intended impact?
Josh: smell test
Reps: great, well this is going to totally fuck us
Josh: tough shit.

conversation goes completely off the rails with reps slinging half baked ideas

70 emails later…
Reps: Can’t you just get a sponsorship?

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I’d like to take credit for something other than complaining about pingolf stuff, but I don’t recall bringing this up so probably someone else.

I’ve only complained about it to Josh every chance I get

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I disagree, it’s shite. :smiley:

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I’m with Cayle here. I’ve played multi-game finals both locally at Captains Warehouse and at the NW Show in Tacoma (2nd to Germaine). You don’t have the same degree of game and competitor focus as in a normal H2H or 4-player group play. It feels much more like you’re playing 3 or 4 stand-alone games as you did in qualifying.

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Had a chance to scroll back and it was @Outlane_Eric

You helped us out a ton with that Sorcerer setup so you have an eternal hall pass to complain about Pin-Golf as much as you would like :slight_smile:

It’s a problem NOW for people who want to qualify for IFPA18 in Germany and will be next year for IFPA19 back here in 2024. I probably won’t be going to Germany even if I qualify, but some people who do want to go are afraid they’ll be “farmed out” of it, both here and in Europe.

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I started the year in 181st and have treated qualifying for Germany as a challenge that I have twelve months to tackle.

I’m now 67th with 7 more months to see if I can deservedly or undeservedly make the cut.

For any of the “some people” that are afraid of not making the cut I’d be interested to hear what those players are doing to try and qualify themselves.

You’ll have to let me know at the end of the year who is undeserving of making the IFPA18 cut and why.

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it helps D82 is nearby no? :smiley:

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District 425 when?

I am one of those people and don’t have a District 82 anywhere near me. Run a pretty lucrative show each year but won’t get to play in it this year due to a much higher scale that needs my attention. Those are all my choices, as much as I would like to qualify for World’s again it probably won’t happen ever again. I am not worried that a bunch of local or near to District 82 players have more opportunities, it is what it is, instead of crying about it just build up the scene in your area the best you can and hope it is good enough along with the travel schedule for you have to make it. No need to bring down a location that has worked hard to be what it is, it should just give fuel to other locations to try to duplicate the success. The changes to 5.8 protect large scale shows so kudos for that, it protects the integrity of 4 player playoffs formats, it nerfs certain formats that people are using to blatantly increase TGP and it goes a long way to reward level of effort for TD’s so all in all thanks for listening Josh as I believe that my voice was heard as being a Provincial Rep.

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It’s allowed me to try and keep up with the amount of WPPRtunities you have on your resume . . . although I’m still not even close to the participation level that @BMU has on his active profile.

Me → 1332.24
You → 1257.84
Bob → 1639.27

So how many people are there that have played in an IFPA worlds events on the bubble to get into IFPA18 because they have not attended an event at D82 and plan to attend IFPA18 in Germany?

how does player minimum work with say an setups like this

128 slots, 128 tickets sold, and say 127 players show up (say no wait list or no one on wait list on site at start time) ?? can the last player be marked no show take an auto loss?
can an TD take the slot (say they say TD’s will not play up front) and just lose to keep the 128 players?

Shows where all people with full passes get some tournament tickets do they need play an min of X attempts to count as an player?

How does events running overtime work with Maximum length?? Say Event ended at 12:01 AM so it loses the boost due to some over time? How does the clock work for what is an day??
Can a day start at something like 9AM (some casinos do things with an day starting at time that is not midnight)

Limited Herb/Card events in where there are an planed minimum 20 hours qualifying time end up having all tickets played just under the 20 hours? Does that still count?

No. You can’t include players that don’t actually participate.

A TD is welcome to participate. They will be counted if they meeting the qualification requirements.

This rule exists already. Players need to play in a minimum of 50% of the qualifying criteria in order to be included in the standings submitted into IFPA.

A day starts at 12:00AM and ends at 11:59PM.

As long as there are 20 hours of open qualifying available, this is fine.

But can an TD participate as an auto loser (play but don’t really play?) Just to fill the last slot?

So are days based on planed days or real days taken? Say event runs just an bit late with it ending just into day 5?

Also what about if one clock says just over and an other says it’s not over?

Are time zones hard?? Places like NW IN. Some times are not 100% on Daylight Saving Time in the same area or places just on the Time zone division line (not an state line)
Or things like China where there an one state time but some areas have there own local time.

What if the tournament takes place on a boat that crosses the international date line. :grin:

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Players either actually play the machines, or they do not actually play the machines. We don’t judge how well a player played as a metric as to whether they count or not.

Events that run into day 5 have technically lasted longer than 4 consecutive days. That rule seems pretty clear. A tournament can’t plan on being 2 days, and the actually take 6 to complete. We always look at real days.

We will deal with this on a case-by-case basis should it come up.

in international waters you can make your own laws / rules on things like time.

an other thing is the Daylight Saving Time gain / lose an hour?
can you have an 4 day event with the added hour gained as part of it?

Daylight savings start at 2am. It prevents the day from switching to yesterday, so this shouldn’t be a problem.

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