Meanwhile, let me note that V5.8 is incredibly complicated compared with prior versions. We have majors, certifieds, bumps for Pinmasters and annual championship series, rules on what formats are okay for a bump, etc. At some point, things get too complicated for their own good. The percentage boosts for each elevated type of event are all shots in the dark as far as how justified they are. How does Heads-Up rate 150% for instance? I’m not saying the old 25 points per event was better, I’m saying that I’d like to see how one justifies the various percentage boosts and the choices of which events get how much. The “major at 150%, all others at 100%” was relatively easy to justify, it’s like other sports. Everything since then is less so.
It’s an IFPA Championship event . … so our 4 WPPR’s will now be boosted to 6 WPPR’s for the winner because of the prestige of the event.
I always work backwards based on the good old smell test. The examples of player results that I’ve seen by making these upcoming adjustments to a pre-COVID level of participation is landing in a zone that I’m VERY HAPPY with.
I vaguely remember a discussion or plan a while ago to use the matchplay rating in the WPPR formula instead of the current rating used. Is that still a possibility?
It’s not on the agenda as it’s not something that’s easy to integrate into our rebuild script.
We are however looking into publishing a player’s MP Rating on their player profile page and possibly including it as one of the ‘alternative metrics’ in our growing list of fun stats to sort by.
You don’t want someone to win by home field advantage at there own place over and over for big points (that did happen in the past under older IFPA rules)
well we do have an MAX events the count for state per player
Does some thing like that need to be added for other levels?
also locations that farm is one thing but not the same as once an year shows. and playoffs events are there own thing as well.
One event per location counting is not just that. Now that idea (maybe an bigger number for some stuff) can be broken into buckets like.
playoffs events now say round 1 and then later round at the same place should be on there own.
Bigger level CERTIFIED EVENTS can be in there bucket
an rolling X day window may work and can help fix the issues of 1 show being able to kill an full year of local state events.
as local player versus an travel player needs to balanced.
one per location is one extreme but letting an once an year show kill all local play is the other.
and yes places like D82 that have many events over an year are good but you don’t want say kill monthly events due to there point out put being so low that people don’t want to go to them.
an rolling X day window does fix some issues and forces more events vs say one packed place over an few days.
(other side issue is that some sates need to cut up but that is an other issue)
Yeah, all this D82 hand-wringing is pretty eyeroll.gif coming off an entire decade where if you didn’t spend two weeks a year in Pittsburgh you were basically non-existent in high-level pinball. One rich guy built it, end everyone came.
Now some guy in the dairy state built his own field of dreams, except he opens it more than twice a year, and it’s a Bad Thing. At least Green Bay is closer to the middle of the country. The solution to the D82 problem isn’t “nerf D82,” it’s “build farms everywhere.”
I just want to know where the FF with high TGP are so I can go play in them before WPPRs v5.8 haha (every FF I’ve played in for SoCal has X hours qualifying followed by traditional group matchplay finals). Are there pure FF tourneys out there that are like “play 5h of FF?”
RIP to one of my of my favorite formats to play in but least favorite to run. Will pour one out for FF later.
Seems like it should only be penalized 1/3, assuming the FF penalty is due to the possibility of less than 3 balls played (forfeit), so with 1/3 you’re already at max 1-ball penalty.
But the 1/2 penalty could be just “we don’t like FF” so who knows. I mean, Josh knows.
