Good question came up last night during a tournament.
Two players playing a solid state game. If a player shakes a machine to try and save a ball, but does not tilt and loses ball. Bonus collects.
Before the other player steps up to machine to play his/her ball, the game tilts due to bobber finally tilting due to previous player’s actions.
Should this be considered a tilt through even though player 1 didn’t tilt their own ball during the actions the eventually tilted player 2’s ball? I don’t have a good answer on this one and even though it seems highly unlikely, it could happen. What would be the ruling?
Tilt through never actually occurred. Rather, I was begging it to tilt through and then joking about the DQ and it got us to wondering what would the ruling be. I agree with your feedback but it is a curious question.
Other considerations, how long does a player get to wait to see if tilt occurs. What if someone nearby is hopping up and down or playing another game so hard that the floor is noticeably moving that might cause the tilt? I’ve seen that at apartment / residence tourneys as well as in a conference room on a third floor where we had machines setup. Tilt bobber never would stop moving due to floor vibrations. Probability of that occurring are probably extremely low though.
It’s up to the following player to give the game adequate time for the tilt Bob to rest. As discussed in our expo coverage, 1-2 minutes is usually okay. However, there does become a point where waiting TOO long becomes obnoxious and inconsiderate.
Happened to us this weekend at the 24 hour final battle. Was about 3 AM on AC/DC. Player shook trying to save the ball. They got 1 danger. Ball drained. Bonus collected and then 2 dangers on the next player. P
“Any player who tilts their own ball, which then results in a tilt warning given to the following player will not have any consequences for the first offense. The player with the warning will be allowed to continue play as normal, or choose to have the ball played on a fresh game. A second offense by the same player anytime throughout the tournament, and it will be treated as a tilt of another player’s ball, with the rules from the previous paragraph being enforced.”
I would follow this verbiage even if the player didn’t actually tilt their own ball, but still caused the interference on the next player’s ball.
Warning for the first offense . . . DQ for the second offense if that same player does it again at any point in the tournament.
The player that gets boned with the warnings doesn’t necessarily have to “play on”. They have the right to play a fresh ball on a fresh game to replace the impacted ball to be played.
I had a similar problem at Pinburgh and was meaning to get a rule clarification. The player ahead of me tilted through my ball, but he said that because I touched the flippers he shouldn’t have been penalized for it. This was on an EM and there was actually no way for me to tell that the tilt had happened until I touched the flippers. So, um, what?
What is the procedure when the impacted player opts to play a ball from a fresh game? Are they allowed to plunge the affected ball, and potentially earn a skill shot, incidental points, and an end-of-ball bonus, so long as they don’t flip?